90 point miscount in a tournament...

[3dnf]

Today I was in the Berlin tournament, and through KI, I played BLINKING. It was a triple triple, but I only tripled it once, for 45 instead of 135. I still went 7-0 +1003 but that really annoys me because that would have been a 500 game. Have any of you had significant miscounts? I know Seth Mandel once played a triple triple and forgot to add in the 50 point bonus.

- Ted Barrett

[CanadianBacon]

Nothing as bad as that. I've played sequoia opening bingo and somehow counted it as 90 instead of 100 (had a blank).

I think I incorrectly scored a play by under 20ish points in a Calgary tournament, forgetting to include a TWS bonus, but I fixed it before the result slip was handed in.

[jrbrooks]

Well.....

I won a tourney several months ago where I finished 10-3-1, with 3 other people finishing 10-4 (one with a better spread than me.) Well, after the tournament I went back and recounted and it turned out in my tie game, which we both agreed not to recount, I had lost by 2 points. So I would have finished 10-4, with a second best point spread.

But if I were to "what-if" that, I most likely would not have played the same people I did after that loss, so who knows how the rest of the tournament would have panned out.

[TheLamb]

Well.....

I won a tourney several months ago where I finished 10-3-1, with 3 other people finishing 10-4 (one with a better spread than me.) Well, after the tournament I went back and recounted and it turned out in my tie game, which we both agreed not to recount, I had lost by 2 points. So I would have finished 10-4, with a second best point spread.

But if I were to "what-if" that, I most likely would not have played the same people I did after that loss, so who knows how the rest of the tournament would have panned out.

No offense meant to you at all...

but this is why I believe all ties should be recounted manditorily. Two players agreeing not to recount is basically rulebook-justified collusion, in my opinion. I keep hearing stories of faux ties changing tournament results and it's frustrating that it's allowed.

In my perfect world, all games would be recounted so we'd have proper scores for all matchups. But maybe all games <5 would be more realistic.

[jrbrooks]

Na I agree with ya. I feel like the win was kind of tainted.

I really wish they would just design a Scrabble board that automatically counted the score for you. Basically an "real-life" version of ISC.

I know you weren't accusing me of collusion, but the reason why we decided not to recount (it was actually her suggestion) was because it had just been such a crazy back and forth game, both of our timers were in single digits, and our next opponents were both waiting for us. I think we were both very satisfied with a tie as it seemed that neither one of us actually deserved to lose.

Obviously this is not a great reason but in no way were we thinking collusion.

[TheLamb]

I really wish they would just design a Scrabble board that automatically counted the score for you. Basically an "real-life" version of ISC.

That's an interesting idea. I wonder if such a thing would be feasible for tournament play? Because it would certainly be possible to engineer a board like that.

[jrbrooks]

I really wish they would just design a Scrabble board that automatically counted the score for you. Basically an "real-life" version of ISC.

That's an interesting idea. I wonder if such a thing would be feasible for tournament play? Because it would certainly be possible to engineer a board like that.

I wish I had the "know-how" to put it together. I do know it would need the following:
- Tiles with some kind of "chip" in them that allowed the board to recognize them while not allowing players to distinguish the difference between tiles while reaching in the bag.
- A button of some sort that allowed you to "set" the board following each turn so that the program would only count letters played on subsequent turns.
- A USB slot, or something similar, that would allow you to upload/change dictionaries. This would provide a means of challenging a play.

Heck, you could build in a tile tracker, a way to save games for analyzing later. I dunno. I am sure some Scrabble purists/elitists would object to this but personally I am down for anything that eliminates errors. You could even consider removing time from the clock and making the games 20 minutes long since tracking/scoring is now a non-issue.

[chtiger1]

I really wish they would just design a Scrabble board that automatically counted the score for you. Basically an "real-life" version of ISC.

That's an interesting idea. I wonder if such a thing would be feasible for tournament play? Because it would certainly be possible to engineer a board like that.

You mean something like this --
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/cro ... age/100002

Maybe in the next year or two.

[medropout]

It'd certainly be feasible to put together a self-counting board. But considering even a plain tournament board costs $150+, would an electronic one ever be affordable? Sorry for the tangent, but why are boards so damn expensive anyway? Is Hasbro demanding $70 royalties per board or what?

[scrblnrd2]

I really wish they would just design a Scrabble board that automatically counted the score for you. Basically an "real-life" version of ISC.

That's an interesting idea. I wonder if such a thing would be feasible for tournament play? Because it would certainly be possible to engineer a board like that.

You mean something like this --
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/cro ... age/100002

Maybe in the next year or two.

The Scrabble Flash game may be sort of a precursor to that. It would certainly be possible to make that much smaller, and to make it compatible with the board. However, a board with that much electronics would cost upwards of 500 dollars.

[josephmcg]

The 'ISB' is a non-starter. The self-counting scrabble scrabble board will be implemented using cameras and Optical Character Recognition.

Here is a pretty good attempt:
http://youtu.be/c3ywTfeTqOE
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/intranet/teac ... om3021.pdf